Spaghetti Tonight

The first few days I was here I didn't want to live in the city center cause I thought it was a zoo. Now I've changed my tune and we are looking for a place here. It is so convenient to just walk everywhere and not have to take the bus. Plus the architecture is so cool and I love to see the River Liffey. Yesterday I made my first important purchase for life here in Dublin. I went to some store in the mall by Grafton Street and picked out a crock pot from a catalog. You write down the number and hand it to the clerk and then they go to the back and get it for you. Interesting. I did some grocery shopping last night so I could make dinner today. I have been craving spaghetti so I got the stuff for it. Grocery shopping is a nightmare with the prices and little selection. I finally found tortillas which are about 2.75 euro and refried beans in a can are 2.06 euro- YIKES. In case any of you wanted to send a birthday present over the pond I could use some pinto beans, chai tea powder from Trader Joes and spices like chili powder!

FRIJOLES POR FAVOR!

I went to the recommended grocery store last night to check out the prices (CRINGE). It wasn't as bad as I imagined it was going to be (3/4-CRINGE). The portions here are smaller than in the US which is probably what accounts for the smaller size of the people here- that and all the walking they have to do! They certainly do not have the wide variety and selection the US has. I think I saw 6 or 7 flavors of ice cream altogether, the most outrageous flavor being mint chocolate chip. It's funny to see pints instead of gallons. Bread was cheap and milk was about normal. Eggs are kept on a shelf rather than in the cooler. Beer is very pricey here as well as sliced turkey. Anyway, I was relieved not to be completely discouraged by the prices. My only complaint I have is this: WHERE ARE THE PINTO BEANS AND TORTILLAS???!!!

Our First Weekend

I am having a bit of tea as I wait for Matt to arrive home from his first day of work. I searched the online letting sites all day for an apartment. I have one or two to go view tomorrow if I can find my way alright. Navigating this monster of a city is difficult to say the least. The bus system is good but traveling by bus can be very time consuming, espcially when you don't know where you are or where you are going. There are probably short cuts we will learn.

Over the weekend we took the DART train to a suburb outside of Dublin called Dalkey to see the sea. On the way there we met a very friendly young Irishman who gave us the scoop on many things including where Bono lives. I guess you can get a pretty good view of his house and read the lyrics on his gate. This guy told us he saw Bono on the motorway one day in Dublin, sunglasses and all. Apparently U2 plays concerts yearly in Dublin and they always sell out. It would be pretty sweet to see them in their hometown. It was nice to see the sea and there were a few old castles in Dalkey and a large, pretty Anglican Church. You can buy an all day pass for the DART and travel up and down the sea coast along Dublin for a small price, getting on and off at the different little towns.

I was unable to go to church yesterday due to timing conflicts with an apartment viewing. Plus, the two churches I want to check out are not near my hotel so it will be good to get settled nearer to the city center. I asked Matt's boss if she knew where the Grosvenors Road Baptist Church was because it seems to be near the apartment she owns. I think I threw her off. I am not sure if it was that she was surprised there was a Baptist Church in Dublin or if she was just surprised that I was asking for the Baptist Church. I did try to stop in at Christ Church Cathedral Sunday morning because I was near it but I found out mass was an hour and half and I didn't have enough time. Christ Church is absolutely stunning from the outside- the grandest church I have ever seen- and I wanted to hear the organ and hymns but I will have to go another time. I am hoping this weekend to go to one of the two churches the missionary recommended to me and make some friends!!!

About Dublin

Praise God we were able to set up a bank account today which was quite a feat! Things do not work the same way here as they do in the US. There is a large amount of American influence here with restaurants, tv shows, music, and stores- which makes the transition easier because not all things are foreign. Most people here are nice and I have not yet felt hated for being American. It strikes me as particularly funny that I was told more than once that Americans are known for being loud but I find that it is the Irish that are loud! They also drink and cuss a lot and smoke like chimneys! I mean everyone here smokes. I am so glad you can't smoke inside anymore because it's hard to breath outside at times! I am not at all used to city living so it feels like a zoo here to me. The only thing I can compare it to is walking down the strip in Vegas- filled with people. Riding the bus is a new thing for me and is not a bad way to get around. The sucky part is finding the right bus (or buses) to get you where you need to go which is tricky when you don't know the city. People do not give directions here by streets and street signs are near impossible to find. They may give you directions by landmarks instead. For example, we went to look at a rental last and the owner told us to get off the bus at such and such pub. Speaking of pubs we haven't even had time to go out for a Guinness yet! We have been eating out and trying to share meals as much as we can to keep our costs down. I know you are all dying to know if it is really as expensive as people say. I haven't gone grocery shopping or paid any bills yet but as far as going out to eat and checking on the price of broadband and making other small purchases here is what I think so far: if you are living here earning euros it's not too bad. Exchanging dollars into euros is another story altogether. When you give the bank $500 you will get back around 355 euros- OUCH! Save your pennies to come visit!!!

First 2 Days in Dublin

My first impression of Dublin when I walked out of the airport was that it reminded me of Minnesota, with all the green grass, trees, bushes, overcast sky, and mild fall temperatures. It continued to remind me of Minnesota as we drove through the suburbs where the houses and buildings are similar to what you see in the older parts of St. Paul. We spent most of our first day in the suburbs with a short trip into the city center at night. We were so jet lagged we turned in early. We slept until about 2:30 AM and laid awake until about 7:00 and then slept a few more hours. It was hard to get up but we were in store for a busy day of waiting in lines at the social welfare office to get a tax ID number and then the immigration office to register. There are peoples of all different nations immigrating to Ireland. Often times I cannot even begin to guess where some of the people look to be from. It feels weird to be immigrating to another country when the US is the best country on earth (woops, did I say that outloud?). Anyway, then we met Matt's new boss for tea. She was very nice and helpful. It turns out she owns a two bedroom apartment in a nice area of town that she offered to rent to us at a decent price. We are going to look at it tomorrow. After tea we walked around the city c enter for the rest of the night. The suburbs may feel like Minnesota but the city center is as city as it gets with the beautiful European architecture. It is full of people, noise, shopping, pubs, history and awesome looking buildings (to see some pics go to Matt's blog). We are now back at our hotel for the evening and will look for a place to live tomorrow. So far the weather has been nice and we have seen the sun each day for at least a little while and have not yet had any rain. Some of the people here are very nice. I can't wait to make some friends and get an apartment.

I miss you all very, very much!!!

On the eve of my last night in Tucson I find myself excited for Dublin and at the same time very sad to be leaving my loved ones. You have all been tremendous blessings in our lives. Stay in touch and know you have a place to stay in Dublin!

Last Day at Rincon

The last few days have been spent saying good bye to our friends. I quite prefer to avoid anything sad at all costs, however, I have been unable to avoid this. Thankfully, we were able to spend much time this week with the Jankowskis and the Richards as well as other good friends from church and beyond. What a blessing it has been getting to know all of you and what fun times we have had!

Today was our last day at our church as well. Rincon Mountain was an answer to a prayer that I had been praying for a long, long time. I could not have asked for a better Pastor or body to worship the one true God with. What was neat is that a member of Rincon came up to us at the service today and told us he will be in Dublin this weekend and gave us the info for the church his friend pastors in Dublin. This is one of the two churches the missionary in central Ireland recommended. God is so good.

Tomorrow we will spend time with Matt's family and I will call mine on the phone to wish them goodbye... until we meet on the other side of the pond that is! I checked the weather for our arrival Wednesday. Forecast says high of 68 with a 30% chance of rain. Thanks for the umbrella Yunuen!

More on Irish Living

I heard more from my new missionary friend in Ireland today. I had asked her if she has come to a point where she prefers Ireland over the US.

"Hmmmm, that's a good question. There are many things I prefer about Ireland. Lower crime rate, much beauty and history (coming from someone who grew up inLos Angeles!), fewer distractions (it's a much slower pace of life here in thecountryside), and of course a love for the people and culture and the ministryhere.I miss many things about America...cheaper prices! better and cheaper restaurants, FELLOWSHIP with lots of believers, more resources for Christiangrowth (bookstores, seminars, large churches...), more support for home schooling, certain foods...I don't know which I prefer. If we went back to the U.S. I would miss some things about Ireland; right now I miss some things about America.I think it helps, though, that I'm married to an Irish man. I have more of anaffinity for things Irish than I would otherwise. I know other Americans herewho just get really bothered about some things that I see as more amusing."

I also asked her about food/grocery stores there.

"There are many things that are the same. Large grocery stores will carry a lotof stuff that you are used to. There aren't nearly so many mixes, though...nomacaroni and cheese, rice-a-roni, or Hamburger Helper! You can get cake mixesbut they're sooo expensive, like $5 a box! No frosting mixes or pre-madefrosting in tubs. And no Crisco or Bisquick.

I'm looking forward to walking to the store, eating healthier, and losing weight!

Brown Envelope with Harp

Today was the first day we started receiving mail at our temporary address which is Matt's mom's house. I was surprised and excited to see a brown envelope with harp on it and immediately recognized it as being from Ireland because of the harp. It was Matt's work permit which we worried would get lost. It was an exciting moment to hand it to him and say, "You're work permit is here!" Praise the Lord!

It looks as though we will be leaving early next week for our new home. We would definitely appreciate your prayers as this will be an exciting as well as difficult time!

Things I Will Miss in Ireland #3

As I was enjoying lunch today at my favorite Mexican food restaurant, Macayo's, I started to become convinced this was not only my favorite Mexican food restaurant but it may also be my favorite restaurant of all time. I cannot get over how delicious their bean chimichangas are smothered in enchilada sauce and topped with sour cream. They also have the best chips and salsa of any Mexican restaurant, NO CONTEST!

Because I am so accustomed to Mexican food living in the southwest I had my good friend Yunuen, who is from Mexico, show me how to make frijoles from scratch recently. I have yet to perfect them but since refried beans is a staple of my diet I figured I should learn to make them.

I will also miss eating at Jason's Deli where I indulge in their scrumptuous meatball po' boy on a wheat french roll regularly with strawberries and fruit dip. And to top it off they give free softserve ice cream cones!

Advice from Master's Seminary Missionary in Ireland

With the help of the Master's Seminary I was able to make contact with a missionary in central Ireland. I have been conversing back and forth with the missionary's wife who has been exceptionally friendly and helpful and has already invited us to come for a visit once we get there. It turns out her husband is a native and she is American. She was able to recommend two churches for me to check out in Dublin ( http://www.grosvenorbaptist.org/ and http://www.grace.ie/page/Home.aspx ) although she said there aren't many good churches there. She also gave me some tips for coming to Ireland as an American. Here is what she had to say....

"Yes, the Irish are generally friendly, and usually friendly to Americansas individuals--they're just not particularly keen on America as a country. Hereare some tips you might find helpful:

1. Don't hang an American flag up outside your house.
2. Don't keep comparing everything in Ireland to America. This is hard, becauseyou keep wanting to say, "Wow, I've never seen a fridge this small...in Americathey're always much larger" or "I can't believe they don't take credit cards inthis shop...in America, every shop takes credit cards!" Etc. I know in yourown mind you would just be making a comparison, but to the Irish it sounds likeyou think America is always better, and it kind of hurts.
3. Talk in a quiet voice in public places...restaurants, shops, and so forth.
4. Don't talk about American politics unless someone asks you, and even thendon't go on and on about it.
5. If someone drops in to your house for a chat, always offer them tea or coffeeand something to eat...biscuits (cookies) are the usual thing. And if someoneelse offers you tea, it's probably easier just to take one cup than to refuse itand be asked 5,000 more times if you're sure you won't have a cup."

I also asked her what was the most difficult thing to adjust to in Ireland. Any guesses as to her reply?

"Probably the weather! It rains a lot, and is damp and cold much of the time. Inthe last seven weeks, I think we've had maybe 3 days where it didn't rain.Admitedly, it's been a bad summer, but it's like that for much of the year.Bring warm clothes!"

What other questions do you think I should ask her???

Good Bye Happy Home!

Three nights ago we left our first house. After a long day of packing, cleaning and making trips back and forth across town we were exhausted. It was sad to walk out for the last time. I looked at the beautiful wood floor, thanked God for all the blessings we had there, and closed the door for the last time. We then made the long track across town with the yowling cats to our temporary home with Matt's mom. She has 6 cats of her own and it will be interesting to see what happens when we let the Sharptooth and Indi out of our bedroom where they have been confined since we got here. Hissing, growling, batting and puffing out is to be expected. I am just hoping it doesn't turn into all out warfare!

Soon to be Homeless...

One week from today we will be leaving our first home. I remember the first time we walked in the model of this home and how we said, "this is too much house for us." I also remember clearly how I fell in love with it and how no other house we looked at could compare. I asked God for it but thought there was no way we would be able to buy it.

God was so good and blessed us with this great house. From the minute we walked in and tore the carpet out we made this house our own- which is why it is so hard to leave. I soon found out that God had gifted Matt in the area of remodeling. Since we have lived here he put in wood flooring and ceramic tile and landscaped the backyard with a brick patio, a flagstone fire pit, a sprinkler and drip system, grass, and an assortment of plants.

There are many good memories here and it is hard to leave something we've worked so hard on. This house has been great, God has been faithful and now goes before us in a direction.

Johnny Mac Rap

Stumbled across Johnny Mac rapping on one of the blogs I drop in on regularly called "Irish Calvinist." It is a fantastic blog and worth checking out. Here is a link to the rap...

http://www.irishcalvinist.com/?p=896

Christian Music

I find it so unfortunate when I come across Christians who bag on Christian music. Now granted, there are some Christian bands out there that aren't very good but to throw out all Christian music because you've only been exposed to say Stryper, Amy Grant or Micahel W. Smith is not only sad but LAME! Below is a song that is musically and lyrically fantastic and expresses a heart attitude that we ought to have as Christians. To throw out music like this (which speaks the truth and is edifying) in favor of filling up on secular music is unfortunate to say the very least.

David Crowder shows how to play his sweet tune at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKPaXd5zRMI

Wholly Yours
I am full of earth
You are heaven’s worth
I am stained with dirt, prone to depravity
You are everything
that is bright and clean
The antonym of me
You are divinity

But a certain sign of grace is this
From a broken earth
flowers come up
Pushing through the dirt

You are holy, holy, holy
All heaven cries “Holy, holy God”
You are holy, holy, holy
I wanna be holy like You are

You are everything
that is bright and clean
And You’re covering
me with Your majesty

And the truest sign of grace was this
From wounded hands
redemption fell down
Liberating man

You are holy, holy, holy
All heaven cries “Holy, holy God”
You are holy, holy, holy
I want to be holy like You are

But the harder I try
the more clearly can I feel
The depth of our fall and the weight of it all
And so this might could be
the most impossible thing
Your grandness in me making me clean

Glory, hallelujah
Glory, glory, hallelujah
You are holy, holy, holy
All heaven cries “Holy, holy God”
You are holy, holy, holy
I want to be holy like You are

So here I am, all of me
Finally everything
Wholly, wholly, wholly
I am wholly, wholly, wholly
I am wholly, wholly, wholly Yours
I am wholly, wholly Yours
I am full of earth and dirt and You

1 Cor. 9:20-22

Notice that Paul deliberately refused to customize his message or adjust his delivery to suit the Corinthian's philosophical bent or their cultural tastes. When he says later in the epistle, "To the Jews I became a Jew... to those without the law, as without law... to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things things to all men, that I might by all means save some" (1 Cor. 9:20-22), he was describing how he made himself a servant to all (v. 19) and the fellow of those whom he was trying to reach. In other words, he avoided making himself a stumbling block. He was not saying he adapted the gospel message (which he plainly said is a stumbling block- 1:23). He did not adopt methods to suit the taste of a worldly culture.

Paul had no thought of catering to a particular generation's preferences, and he used no gimmicks as attention-getters. Whatever antonym you can think of for the word showmanship would probably be a good description of Paul's style of public ministry. He wanted to make it clear to everyone (including the Corinthian converts themselves) that lives and hearts are renewed by means of the Word of God and nothing else. That way they would begin to understand and appreciate the power of the gospel message. 

-from The Truth War by John MacArthur

Evangelical Fad Surfing

Contemporary evangelicals have therefore become very much like "children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine" (Eph. 4:14). They follow whatever is the latest popular trend. They buy whatever is the current best seller. They lineup to see any celebrity who speaks spiritual-sounding language. They watch eagerly for the next Hollywood movie with any "spiritual" theme or religious imagery that they can latch on to. And they discuss these fads and fashions endlessly, as if every cultural icon that captures evangelicals' attention had profound and serious spiritual significance.-from The Truth War by John MacArthur

Do you know people who fit this? It is so sad when people settle for a shallow Christianity or a an all together counterfeit faith when Christ is SO MUCH MORE!

Dublin Draws Near

I am beginning to dream of moving. Last night I drempt Matt and I were in Dublin looking for an apartment. I assume my dreams will become more and more about moving to Ireland now since the time is drawing near. Our house sold last week which can only be accounted for by God since the house market is so bad. God seems to be bringing everything about in perfect time. It has been quite amazing to watch God's hand in all of this since the beginning when Matt brought home a list of locations which have his program and we saw and considered Ireland for the first time. I thought for sure it was a pipe dream and was shocked when he was notified by Ireland that he was to have an interview. And he found this out the day before he went to Sacramento to interview. Turning down a great job opportunity in Sacramento was very difficult when Ireland seemed so unsure. But here we are and God has been at the center throughout the entire time, controlling all apsects. I am so grateful for this opportunity and this adventure we are about to have. God is so good and amazing and His blessings and provisions are stunning.

Proposition and Personal Element to Truth

"Let's be clear: truth certainly does entail more than bare propositions. There is without question a personal element to truth. Jesus himself made that point when he declared himself truth incarnate. Scripture also teaches that faith means receiving Christ for all that he is- knowing him in a real and personal sense and being indwelt by him- not merely assenting to a short list of disembodied truths about him (Matthew 7:21-23).

So it is quite true that faith cannot be reduced to mere assent to a finite set of propositions (James 2:19). I have made that point repeatedly in previous books. Saving faith is more than a merely intellectual nod of approval to the bare facts of a minimalist gospel outline. Authentic faith in Christ involves love for his person and willingness to surrender to his authority. The human heart, will and intellect all consent in the act of faith. In that sense, it is certainly correct, even necessary, to acknowledge that mere propositions can't do full justice to all the dimensions of truth.

On the other hand, truth simply cannot survive if stripped of propositional content. While it is quite true that believing the truth entails more than the assent of the human intellect to certain propositions, it is equally true that authentic faith never involves anything less. To reject the propositional content of the gospel is to forfeit saving faith, period."

-from The Truth War by John MacArthur

Things I will miss in Ireland #2

I often remind my husband how lucky he is to have a wife that is such a bargain shopper. My favorite stores is Ross followed by Old Navy. I also like to go the Gap at the outlet mall where I get killer deals. These are pretty much the only stores I shop at. I mean with the screaming deals you get at these stores who in their right mind would pay mall prices?! The best day was about one month ago when I was shopping at Ross and I found a pair of Old Navy jeans- and for $7.99 to boot! Shopping does not get any better than that!!

I met an English girl while in Thailand last fall who recognized my Old Navy shirt and told me they don't have Old Navy over there. I am sure there are no Ross stores and from what I hear Gap costs an arm and a leg. I may have to come home just to shop!

Things I will miss in Ireland #1...

I think that I will go on a wild blogging rampage about the things I will miss in Ireland to see if I can get them out of my system by sheer expression...

Things I will miss in Ireland #1...

MY BOOKS! What a wonderful bookshelf I had with a goldmine of books! Man, was it sad to pack this up!

As Dublin draws near I begin to think of the things that I will miss besides the obvious like my family, my friends and my cats (until they arrive in December).

As small as this may sound I will miss Saturday mornings at Brueggers Bagels with my hubby, drinking Bruegger's hazelnut cream coffee (my fav coffee), and eating whole wheat bagels with egg, cheddar, and sausage (my fav sandwich -outside of my mom's turkey salad and egg salad and my mother in law's grilled cheese). This is a serious treat to me! My friend Denise told me she saw lots of bagel shops in Dublin and lots of coffee houses but I think it will be hard to beat Brueggers!

Sweet Catch!

Since my brother-in-law Steven doe snot have a blog of his own I felt that I must take it upon myself to post this sweet catch. Nice work, bro!

One question: Did you use a small dog for bate?

98 Dublin FM

I have been streaming a radio station from Dublin for about the last month. The music isn't my favorite but it has regular news, traffic, and weather updates as well as some call in shows. Listening to it has given me a feel for the people and the city of Dublin.

To take a listen:
-Click on this link http://www.98fm.ie/default2.asp#
-Click on the orange circle on right side that says "Listen Live"

Surprising how much American music they play.

Which Theologian Are You?

Matt gave me this quiz quite a while ago but I saved it and stumbled across it today. Please take it and post which three theologians you are most like.

http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=44116


For me:
I came in as Martin Luther and then I had a threeway tie with John Calvin, Johnathan Edwards and of all people... Karl Barth!

...Hmm...

Loome's

Speaking of books, while I was in Minnesota recently I visited the neatest bookstore in Stillwater called Loome's Theological Book Store. The book store is set in a beautifully restored Old Swedish Covenant Church and is the largest secondhand dealer of theological books in the world! They supply institutional libraries, monastic communities, churches, clergy, scholars, and collectors with a vast array of books in theology, religion, and all related areas.

I was surpirsed to read this: "When most people in the upper Midwest think of Stillwater, they are thinking of great food, antiques and the beautiful St. Croix Valley. When people in Vienna, Tokyo, Oxford or Manila think of Stillwater, they are thinking about books.Stillwater, North America’s first Booktown, has been the destination of countless book collectors, librarians and bibliophiles from all over the world for twenty years. They often fly over New York, Chicago or L.A. to get to us. In the world of books, Stillwater is serious business.King Richard Booth, the self-proclaimed monarch of the first Booktown in the world, Hay-on-Wye in Wales, personally named Stillwater a Booktown at the first annual Stillwater Book Fair held in October, 1995."

Fascintating! This famous theological bookstore is located in the town of my birth and as such a book lover I am ashamed to say I never even knew it! Even though a large majority of the books seemed to be Catholic it was really neat to walk around in this very old church, on the creaky floors, and go up the narrow staircase that led to the balcony which overlooked where the pulpit would have been and to be surrounded by tons and tons of old theological books. The only thing that could make it better is if they had coffee in there- I could be lost for hours!

Choosing Books

We have received word recently from the hospital in Dublin that they may be calling for us as early as four weeks from now :) so we have kicked it up into high gear around our place. Last night I had to take down my book shelf and pack up my books which was so sad. I plan on bringing some books with me and so far I have it narrowed down to about 35 books. Realistically I will be lucky if I can fit 15-20 books in my bags. Some of the no contest books are as follows:

My Johnny Mac study Bible NKJV, my Cambridge NIV Bible, The Valley of Vision, Holiness by Sproul, Total Truth by Pearcy, How Shall We Then Live and Trilogy by Schaffer, Knowledge of the Holy by Tozer, Desiring God and Future Grace by Piper, a few philosophy books, and a few books on Great Saints from places I will be seeing like Luther, Calvin, Spurgeon, Kyper, and Fox's Book of Martyrs.

These are just a few of the books so far. Anyone have any ideas on how I can squeeze as many books as possible into my luggage?

Dublin Webcams

Want to see Dublin? Check out these sweet webcams. Whenever I check and see a sunny sky I have to call Matt up and tell him, "A Sunny day in Dublin!"

http://www.liveireland.com/webcams.shtml

The Cat Is Out of the Bag

Last night Matt and I arrived in Minnesota to tell the family our news. We made them play a trivia game about Dublin to guess where our new home would be. The trivia questions started out difficult but became easier as the quiz went on. I thought for sure the last two trivia questions would give it away but my family was convinced it was in the US so they did not get it. Finally after we talked them through the latitiude and longitude question Cbass guessed Ireland and won the prize, a key chain from Dublin. They all want to come visit!

Is Christianity Good for the World?

A friend of mine recently recommended a debate to me entitled "Is Christianity Good for the World?" The debators are Doug Wilson (team Christ) and Christopher Hitchens (team anti-christ). These are two well studied and articulate men. The dialogue is absolutely fascinating!

There are mutliple parts which may be devoured at
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/mayweb-only/119-12.0.html


The debate focuses mostly on being able to account for one's morality. Here is a tidbit I particularly liked written from Wilson to Hitchens...

"You say in passing that ethical imperatives are "derived from innate human solidarity." A host of difficult questions immediately arise, which is perhaps why atheists are generally so coy about trying to answer this question. Derived by whom? Is this derivation authoritative? Do the rest of us ever get to vote on which derivations represent true, innate human solidarity? Do we ever get to vote on the authorized derivers? On what basis is innate human solidarity authoritative? If someone rejects innate human solidarity, are they being evil, or are they just a mutation in the inevitable changes that the evolutionary process requires? What is the precise nature of human solidarity? What is easier to read, the book of Romans or innate human solidarity? Are there different denominations that read the book of innate human solidarity differently? Which one is right? Who says?
And last, does innate human solidarity believe in God?" -Doug Wilson